ASP.NET, PHP a budoucí prezident USA

To ze republikan pouziva proprietarnu technologiu ma neprekvapuje, skor ma to zarazilo u "demokratky". Tiez verim ze Obama vyhra a nie len kvoli PHP :)

tywe to je sracka - vzdyt preci ti kandidati vubec netusi v cem ty weby maji a jestli je to free nebo ne.

proste si to nekde objednali a zajima je jak to vypada - ne jestli je to ciste HTML a nedej boze na cem to bezi.

jinak PHP + nedejboze MySQL je nejvetsi sracka ve ktere se da vyvoj delat. pokud chcete tvrdit ze to pouzivate na velke projekty tak asi za "velky" projekt povazujete opravdu takovou kravinu jako jsou strany volebniho kandidata v USA primarkach. a to je smutne.

bezte se zeptat lidi co delaji opravdu _VELKE_ projekty jaky je jejich postoj k open-source a jaky je zejmena postoj zakaznika k open-source.

proc se nasazuje Java a ne PHP a proc na linuxu nefrci Mono projekty ackoliv .NET na M$ platforme je vyborna vec.

zakaznik si nemuze dovolit nejakou open-source shitku. v pripade ze je problem tak si zakaznik (typicky velky zakaznik je nadnarodni banka) jde doslapnout primo na autora jazyka/frameworku (treba Sun) at to okamzite opravi, protoze jim v tom tecou miliony.

taktez linux je vec ktera na _VELKE_ projekty nepatri. tady maji misto pouze velke komercni unixy.

Souhlasím, že PHP na velké projekty nepatří. Všechny větší aplikace (mluvím teď jen o těch umístěných na internetu) jsou dělané ve vyšších jazicích. Jediné použití PHP na EA mě napadá ve validační vrstvě. Dalším dobrým použitím je vytváření prototipů.

[2] nemyslím si že by Linux na velké projekty byl problém. A taky si nemyslím že by open-source neměl ve velkých projektech místo. A přes všechny méněkvalitní věci jsou mezi open-source věci, které v kvalitě nemají obdoby. Za všechny jmenuji rodinu JBoos (ikdyž tam ještě bude sranda kam se to vyvine po tom co to koupil Red Hat).

[3] mluvim ze zkusenosti - zazemi portalu jobs.cz, projekty pro velke pojistovny a banky

tim myslim _VELKE_ projekty

co se tyce prototypovani - to je neco uplne jineho samozrejme - tam je jedno v cem to je - ale jakmile to jde do ostreho provozu tezko duverovat open-source.

Open source se používá i v bankách, v letectví apod. Kdo nevěří, ať tam běží. Jeden příklad za všechny: Spring :-) Ostatně (suní) Java už je taky drahnou dobu open-source.

[2] Řekl bych, že Google je _VELKÝ_ projekt. A - světe div se - používá Linux. Viz např. http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2007/08/joining-oin.html
Ale kam se hrabe na jobs.cz...

PHP na bych na velké věci nechtěl, protože se to u mě nálepky Personal Home Page nikdy nezbaví :-)

Ale opensource věci jako Linux, Java, Python a všelijaké webové frameworky mají samozřejmě cestu otevřenou. Google má 15% kódu v Pythonu, zbytek bude C++, Java a tak; a skoro všechno běží na Linuxu. YouTube je v Pythonu.

Opensource je prostě jen licence, o kvalitě to apriori nic neříká.

Nemam zadne zkusenosti s Javou. Co ma navic oproti PHP? Proc by mela byt vhodnejsi na velke projekty?

[8] Jedna věc, která mě napadá, je zpětná kompatibilita.

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